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The antagonist is 'Detective Doug', a duck who turned to a life of crime after he got sick of everyone misreading his name and assuming he was going to be a dog (stereotyped as being the best animals for solving mysteries)
 
The antagonist is 'Detective Doug', a duck who turned to a life of crime after he got sick of everyone misreading his name and assuming he was going to be a dog (stereotyped as being the best animals for solving mysteries)
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==John Buck: Wilderness Deertective==
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The second movie was released two years after the first, but the trailers and other promotional media makes no reference to it being a sequel; and seems to reuse many of the original jokes. Together with the sudden reintroduction of much of the same merch in shops, this meant that many people who didn't pay particular attention to kids' media (such as [[Cain Gordon]]) were unaware that the trend had peaked again, and remember it as one movie with merch in the shops for an unusually long time.
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==Deer Detective on the Road==
  
 
There is a series "Deer Detective on the Road" (mentioned in [[Unexpected Daddy]] chapter 16) following on from the movie a few years later, which takes a different tack. It is mostly computer generated, and features John Buck and his love interest Ruby Rabbit travelling around the country solving crimes. It is a cartoon for older children (or at least older than the target audience of shows like [[Paradise Pen]] and [[Bibi Babi Miko]]), where there are enough clues for a child to be proud of solving the mystery before the detective reveals the answer. The opening sequence features higher quality animation than most of the show, and features Buck racing along a country road in a red sports car, while Ruby lies across the back seat playing the harmonica (the opening theme starts with his solo).
 
There is a series "Deer Detective on the Road" (mentioned in [[Unexpected Daddy]] chapter 16) following on from the movie a few years later, which takes a different tack. It is mostly computer generated, and features John Buck and his love interest Ruby Rabbit travelling around the country solving crimes. It is a cartoon for older children (or at least older than the target audience of shows like [[Paradise Pen]] and [[Bibi Babi Miko]]), where there are enough clues for a child to be proud of solving the mystery before the detective reveals the answer. The opening sequence features higher quality animation than most of the show, and features Buck racing along a country road in a red sports car, while Ruby lies across the back seat playing the harmonica (the opening theme starts with his solo).
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==Main Characters==
 
==Main Characters==
 
===John Buck===
 
===John Buck===
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[[File:John Buck poster.png|thumb|A movie poster by Jailor Eckman (blown up from a background detail in the [[My Sister's Problem]] cover)]]
  
 
===Ruby Rabbit===
 
===Ruby Rabbit===
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His main catch phrase is “I'm a rebel without a _____.” filling in the blank with a wide range of items, both practical and abstract depending on the context. (car, compass, clue, date, pencil, dollar, religion, gauze, license)
 
His main catch phrase is “I'm a rebel without a _____.” filling in the blank with a wide range of items, both practical and abstract depending on the context. (car, compass, clue, date, pencil, dollar, religion, gauze, license)
  
==Investigation Party==
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==Investigation Chase / Investigation Party==
  
There is also a board game, which is based on the rules of Clue/Cluedo. The playing pieces are 7 different characters from the movie, formed from different coloured plastic with the same 3 colours of paint used to add some details. The plot says that Carly Black, the spaniel, has several deliveries to make and one of them is really, really urgent. But she's forgotten what was supposed to be delivered to who, and has so hired John Buck to work out which delivery was the important one. Cards represent possible items, the people they need to be delivered to, and the places where Carly left them. The rules are pretty much standard Clue besides that. A lot of players (including Oswyn in Unexpected Daddy) talk about the 'thief', as if they were trying to track down someone who has stolen something – a very common plot in the TV show, but not what the game's rule leaflet actually says.
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There is also a board game, Investigation Chase. The initial version was a detective game released around the time of the second movie, in which two players (as Detective Doug and John Buck) eliminate six non-playable suspects and clues by landing on them, and the last suspect left on the board is the 'thief' and must be arrested to win the game.
* People - John Buck, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?
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With the release of 'On The Road', there came a new game which is based on the rules of Clue/Cluedo. This uses most of the same suspects, reusing the designs for the pieces except for the removal of Captain Crown the Police Crab and Detective Doug, and with the addition of Ruby.
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The playing pieces are 7 different characters from the movie, formed from different coloured plastic with the same 3 colours of paint used to add some details. The plot says that Carly Black, the spaniel, has several deliveries to make and one of them is really, really urgent. But she's forgotten what was supposed to be delivered to who, and has so hired John Buck to work out which delivery was the important one. Cards represent possible items, the people they need to be delivered to, and the places where Carly left them. The rules are pretty much standard Clue besides that. A lot of players (including Oswyn in Unexpected Daddy) talk about the 'thief', as if they were trying to track down someone who has stolen something – a very common plot in the TV show, but not what the game's rule leaflet actually says.
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* People - John Buck, Ruby Rabbit, Penny Porker (a pig in a tutu), Oscar the Ocelot, Master Chum (a cow in a chef's hat), ?, ?
 
* Items - Harmonica, Cookies, ?, ?, ?, ?
 
* Items - Harmonica, Cookies, ?, ?, ?, ?
 
* Places - School, Treehouse, Stables, ?, ?, ?, ?
 
* Places - School, Treehouse, Stables, ?, ?, ?, ?
  
 
(Thinking about it now, a better plot might be helping Carly prepare for a friend's surprise party when she's forgotten where it's being held, what she's bringing, and who it's for. She can't ask anyone because she doesn't know whose party it is, so they have to search for clues. So the 'clues' are like receipts for gifts someone else has bought, pictures or reminiscences of a character's birthday earlier in the year, and information about what a particular venue is being used for tonight)
 
(Thinking about it now, a better plot might be helping Carly prepare for a friend's surprise party when she's forgotten where it's being held, what she's bringing, and who it's for. She can't ask anyone because she doesn't know whose party it is, so they have to search for clues. So the 'clues' are like receipts for gifts someone else has bought, pictures or reminiscences of a character's birthday earlier in the year, and information about what a particular venue is being used for tonight)
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These games are mentioned in stories because [[Unexpected Daddy/Oswyn|Oswyn]] has a copy of both games, while [[Belle Carter]] bought Investigation Chase shortly after moving to [[Upper Ashfields]], making the start of her board games collection.
  
 
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[[Category: Media]]

Latest revision as of 21:19, 23 October 2023

A sketch of John Buck by Jailor Eckman

Mentioned in Hypnosis Doesn't Work Like That!, John Buck is an animated movie released a few years before which seems to have made a bit of a media splash. It's successful in that every supermarket had shelves filled with tableware, bed linen, lunchboxes, and stationery bearing pictures of the characters for nearly a year.

The main characters seem to be a deer with a deerstalker and magnifying glass, and a dog in dark glasses. The deer occasionally has trouble getting his antlers through doors, which is mostly played for laughs. One sad moment in the movie is when an otter is locked up, but it's not mentioned why. There is a little adult humour in the movie, designed to keep the parents entertained, but it would mostly go over the kids' heads.

John Buck is known to organise clues by visualising them in his 'mind forest', which is a kind of running joke. Although he talks about it a lot, there is no onscreen representation of the mind forest. But each time he mentions it in the movie, the action soon cuts to a scene taking place in a forest somewhere. A certain group of fans has taken to yelling "Cut to mind forest!" or similar after they notice the trend, followed by theatrical groans of disappointment when it is revealed yet again to be a real forest. There is also a rather silly fan theory that all forests are in fact corporeal manifestations of the great detective's mental process, giving a "rational" explanation for why the weather in the woods often seems to mirror his current mood.

The antagonist is 'Detective Doug', a duck who turned to a life of crime after he got sick of everyone misreading his name and assuming he was going to be a dog (stereotyped as being the best animals for solving mysteries)

John Buck: Wilderness Deertective

The second movie was released two years after the first, but the trailers and other promotional media makes no reference to it being a sequel; and seems to reuse many of the original jokes. Together with the sudden reintroduction of much of the same merch in shops, this meant that many people who didn't pay particular attention to kids' media (such as Cain Gordon) were unaware that the trend had peaked again, and remember it as one movie with merch in the shops for an unusually long time.

Deer Detective on the Road

There is a series "Deer Detective on the Road" (mentioned in Unexpected Daddy chapter 16) following on from the movie a few years later, which takes a different tack. It is mostly computer generated, and features John Buck and his love interest Ruby Rabbit travelling around the country solving crimes. It is a cartoon for older children (or at least older than the target audience of shows like Paradise Pen and Bibi Babi Miko), where there are enough clues for a child to be proud of solving the mystery before the detective reveals the answer. The opening sequence features higher quality animation than most of the show, and features Buck racing along a country road in a red sports car, while Ruby lies across the back seat playing the harmonica (the opening theme starts with his solo).

It's mentioned in Unexpected Daddy that John Buck uses a whole notebook on each case he solves. Not mentioned yet, but I can imagine a pile of them in the footwell of his car, where he throws them when he's done and never gets around to typing up his notes as a memoir. Sometimes Ruby is seen writing them out, which may be the "source" for there being a TV series about him (which exists in-universe, but is more a docudrama thing). Also mentioned that the squiggles in his notebooks, if you zoom in on the relevant frames, are all critical path and segmented tree diagrams (nothing to do with detective work) labelled with 'Englishman/Irishman/Scotsman' jokes transliterated into old Germanic runes. Oswyn is probably the only viewer who has ever decoded them.

Main Characters

John Buck

A movie poster by Jailor Eckman (blown up from a background detail in the My Sister's Problem cover)

Ruby Rabbit

A pink rabbit. John's boyfriend. They travel around the country together.

Although he's the sidekick of a great detective, Ruby has very little regard for the law. His personal ethics are mostly based around doing whatever causes the greatest happiness for the greatest number of people; although given an equal choice it seems he would rather break the law when doing this. (He's not stupid, and doesn't want to get in trouble, he just doesn't like authority)

He plays the harmonica pretty well, and ran away from home to join a band (punk/blues fusion) when he was 14.

His main catch phrase is “I'm a rebel without a _____.” filling in the blank with a wide range of items, both practical and abstract depending on the context. (car, compass, clue, date, pencil, dollar, religion, gauze, license)

Investigation Chase / Investigation Party

There is also a board game, Investigation Chase. The initial version was a detective game released around the time of the second movie, in which two players (as Detective Doug and John Buck) eliminate six non-playable suspects and clues by landing on them, and the last suspect left on the board is the 'thief' and must be arrested to win the game.

With the release of 'On The Road', there came a new game which is based on the rules of Clue/Cluedo. This uses most of the same suspects, reusing the designs for the pieces except for the removal of Captain Crown the Police Crab and Detective Doug, and with the addition of Ruby. The playing pieces are 7 different characters from the movie, formed from different coloured plastic with the same 3 colours of paint used to add some details. The plot says that Carly Black, the spaniel, has several deliveries to make and one of them is really, really urgent. But she's forgotten what was supposed to be delivered to who, and has so hired John Buck to work out which delivery was the important one. Cards represent possible items, the people they need to be delivered to, and the places where Carly left them. The rules are pretty much standard Clue besides that. A lot of players (including Oswyn in Unexpected Daddy) talk about the 'thief', as if they were trying to track down someone who has stolen something – a very common plot in the TV show, but not what the game's rule leaflet actually says.

  • People - John Buck, Ruby Rabbit, Penny Porker (a pig in a tutu), Oscar the Ocelot, Master Chum (a cow in a chef's hat), ?, ?
  • Items - Harmonica, Cookies, ?, ?, ?, ?
  • Places - School, Treehouse, Stables, ?, ?, ?, ?

(Thinking about it now, a better plot might be helping Carly prepare for a friend's surprise party when she's forgotten where it's being held, what she's bringing, and who it's for. She can't ask anyone because she doesn't know whose party it is, so they have to search for clues. So the 'clues' are like receipts for gifts someone else has bought, pictures or reminiscences of a character's birthday earlier in the year, and information about what a particular venue is being used for tonight)

These games are mentioned in stories because Oswyn has a copy of both games, while Belle Carter bought Investigation Chase shortly after moving to Upper Ashfields, making the start of her board games collection.